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"It's going to be a HIGH of 32!" Scott said.  "Fireplace and football!"  Scott was talking about Sunday, but it was still Saturday.  Saturday too late… Jeff jibeby the time we got to Sebonac and rigged (5.2-5.7) it was too darn light.  Still, Christian, Jeff and Scott launched.  I had rigged (5.5) but hadn't put on neoprene.  The Wolf watched from his pickup.  What had started as a windy day was now shlogfest conditions, though the three bold ones did score 3.25 reaches before giving up.   The forecast for Sunday was big wind, but it was going to be cold, testing the Long Island Windsurfing Rule of 100.

Rule of 100But Christian was ready to have a go at it!  And despite air temps under freezing, the Rule was met.  Launching on Tiana Bay, the Hale Fellow Christian braved mad gusts (48mph measured at Westhampton Airport) and coldly temps, and did return to shore after his sesh with a sail full of ice.  "I had to come in because the sail got too heavy and unresponsive due to ice build up. Otherwise I was as warm as toast except for the specific exposed section of windward face."  Nice!

I wish I'd gone.  Dang!

*Not familiar with the Windsurfing Rule of 100, or the Long Island Rule of 100?   100 Rules are guidelines for when is it too cold to windsurf.   The garden variety definition states that the water temperature plus the air temperature must total 100 for it to be sailable.  Most people who buy drysuits say "pshaw" at this, and push it down to 90 or lower**.    On Long Island, where any number of year-round windsurfing crazies may be found, we have a more nuanced rule of 100, which states:

Air temperature + water temperature + winds speed + weeks since last session +(if it's sunny out) 5 must total 100.   So for Christian:  30.5 air + 45 water (guestimate…Sebonac was 47 on Saturday) +30 wind speed…we're already at 105, and we haven't counted Christian's windless weeks.  And the sun was out!   The Rule gets interesting when the water in in the high 30's, but as The Wolf says, "if it's sunny and the wind is good, it can be beautiful!"

Windsurfing rule of 100

**Seven years ago Peconic Jeff and I made a point of trying to sail in conditions that would ice the rigs and get the air plus water total as low as possible.   Our record was 66.5.  As I recall the iced sail wasn't as much a problem as the boom being 100% slippery!)

(Top:  Jeff jibes in one of the few Saturday gusts. Middle:  Christian gets it done.  Bottom:  Look closely…there's ice well above the boom.  Nice!  Top photo by the editor, the in-focus photos by Jeff Schultz.)

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15 responses to “A New Iceman Cometh”

  1. Bonnie K. Frogma Avatar

    I scratched any on-water activity when I saw what the windspeeds were going to be. Not surprised windsurfers were out – youse guys is crazy (in the best way)!

  2. Mik Kvitchko Avatar

    Hey, there is winter sailing in NJ too! We sail the bay at Long Beach Island. Here is a clip from yesterday’s sailing:
    http://youtu.be/4KIug-ly4PE
    We love and share your LI Rule of 100, we find it applicable to LBI as well 🙂

  3. Michael Avatar

    Looking good, Mik! It’s always good to learn of other people who know windsurfing in the Northeast can be spectacular, particularly if you have a 5/3 or a drysuit!

  4. Christian Avatar
    Christian

    Thank you Puffin for highlighting an addiction. Good to see from the other comments that there are others with similar issues.

  5. Brian S Avatar

    Looking forward to seeing (from my living room) the LI ‘panzies’ break the ’50’ barrier!
    http://distressedmullet.com/it-doesnt-take-insanity-surf-lake-huron-below-freezing-weather-it-takes-warm-wetsuit

  6. Michael Avatar

    Brian, the guys in your article are warmer than 67 (“Yesterday’s session was in 27 degree air temps with water in the 40s”) so what’s this talk about the 50’s? That would be…cold! With a water temp of 33 it would require an air temp of 26 to come in at 59. Yikes! For myself I’ve worked out that in full blazing sun, 34 air is as low as can get comfortably (“comfort” being defined as not in freezing agony.)
    Meanwhile we need someone to invent warm wave-worthy gloves!

  7. live2sail Avatar
    live2sail

    grip is def the weakest link
    George

  8. Brian S Avatar

    Michael, You’ll notice that I said ‘from my living room’. You guys are about the craziest guys out there, in terms of cold weather sailing. Our (fresh) water is already changing phase, so it’s not likely the Great Lakes guys will be out much longer – except for the prone surfers who find a way.
    And I agree with you and George – da hands!

  9. Mik Avatar

    Meanwhile we need someone to invent warm wave-worthy gloves!
    so far, what works for us best is this:
    2mm closed palm mitten (Neil Pryde used to make them in the past) combined with 100% wool mittens (wear them under the neoprene). I soak the wool mittens in a warm water before putting them on. Vadim prefers them dry in the beginning, but some water eventually gets in and soaks them anyway.

  10. scott k. Avatar
    scott k.

    I have quicksilvers heated vest that works pretty good.on the high setting it actually gets too hot.the heating elements are made of carbon fiber which is water proof.so why cant they make heated gloves? I know a company in Switzerland that makes heated gloves but they are not waterproof.its the hands that stop me from long winter sessions.

  11. Michael Avatar

    It’s the hands that stop us all, Lord Scotworth. That’s why we take many short sessions instead!

  12. bill barber Avatar
    bill barber

    It is the mind that stops a session not the hands! Peace BB

  13. scott k. Avatar
    scott k.

    ok I think I have a good answer to the cold hands.ive never found mittens warm enough so Ive always used 2mm glacier gloves.the 2mm is good for grip but not really that warm.so what Ive done is taken an old pair of glacier gloves and cut them in half so that you have half a bottom and half a top.easy to cut along the stitching.now throw away the bottom halves.take the top half and glue it right over the back of the whole glove.it fits really good if you do it right and now you have a pair of 4/2mm gloves!the 4mm on the back covers the veins of blood in your hand and you still have good dexterity for grabbing the boom.warmest sailing gloves possible!

  14. christian Avatar
    christian

    How about this idea from a crazy windsurfing Brit:
    http://www.ianovated.co.uk/
    I’m sure there’s a way to rig this tubing system up using an existing drysuit.

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